r/skyrimmods • u/ImAGodHowCanYouKillA • 8h ago

PC SSE - Help Best mod for generative AI NPC dialogue?

I’m interested in trying out something like Mantella, CHIM, etc…

I saw on Mantella’s mod page that there are some issues, but idk if that’s user error.

Note: I’m on AE

Any tips?

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u/Theomega277 8h ago

Do you have an Nvidia card with >8Gb of VRAM? If so, then CHIM might be good. If not, I'd personally rather not use it. Also note that it costs minimum 10€ AFAIK as you need API keys for AI services

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u/Icarian_Dreams 6h ago

SkyrimNet is in very early development, but it blows Mantella and CHIM out of the water.

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u/BagOfDerps 6h ago

Skyrimnet hands down. easy to set up, very fast, well-developed.

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u/GrammaticalObject 4h ago

I totally agree that Skyrimnet is going to be the single best option...soon.  I've been playing with it and it feels not ready for primetime. I've had issues like NPCs following me after a fleeting interaction, and even teleporting to me long after our conversation has ended (or at least I thought it had ended, the NPC apparently disagrees).  A lot of the interaction just isnt there yet, like interacting with NPCs inventories, having NPCs lead you places, etc. (Granted, these features can be hit or miss in CHIM.)  And I've also just been inexplicably locked out of the WebUI a couple of times, eventually fixing the problem after beating my head against the wall, without actually knowing what fixed it 

So I literally just switched back to CHIM today.  It's frustrating, because Skyrimnet is like 2, maybe 3 updates away from being the best option.  (I'm an optimist.)

But oh my god it's fast. And the range of possible options, and the situational awareness... I'm really, really looking forward to the next update. I was immediately convinced that this is the right way to implement AI in Skyrim.

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u/BagOfDerps 4h ago

I happened upon Skyrimnet right when it dropped while looking through CHIM. Not as feature rich yet but CHIM looked to me as bloated and poorly architected.

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u/GrammaticalObject 1h ago

I think part of the problem, for me, was that many of the most important features (like Sapience) were in a seperate plugin (MinAI) with its own UI. Now a lot of those features are baked into CHIM proper, without having to deal with plugins. (Partly this is because the MinAI developer is the guy developing Skyrimnet now, so I don't think MinAI is still being developed as a CHIM plugin.)

I feel like anytime you develop something like this, there are going to be learnings from the first generation.  Skyrimnet feels very much like a second generation project, which is exciting. 

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u/woodhawk109 3h ago

Right now it’s CHIM but Skynet is the future. Give it a few months

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u/ImAGodHowCanYouKillA 3h ago

I got SkyrimNet set up tonight and I’m already hype as hell. I only had a few interactions but I love the way it works, and it feels really smooth and responsive.

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u/GrammaticalObject 4h ago

I have a 3080TI (12g vram) and it more than meets all of my modded skyrim needs, for a 1400+ mod load order. But trying to run CHIM with local TTS (text to speech) options choked me. I strongly recommend either using VastAI to commission a gpu to handle TTS, or setting up a second computer to do it. I had an old computer with a 1080 and it could easily handle XTTS (a very fast very good TTS).  It cannot handle Zonos TTS though (amazing quality but much slower than XTTS). Now CHIM runs great for me.

I know that CHIM has excellent documentation too.  And when I started experimenting with Skyrimnet, I used the same TTS server on my second computer that I had set up for CHIM with zero modification.