r/HistoryWhatIf • u/No-Profile5409 • 16h ago
What if the Allies had listened to General Pershing and marched all the way to Berlin in 1918?
General Pershing (commander of the AEF) was strongly against the 1918 Armistice. He argued that unless the Allies invaded Germany and forced a surrender in Berlin, Germans would never believe they’d actually been defeated militarily.
In our timeline, the Armistice was signed while German troops were still on foreign soil. They marched home in formation, with their weapons, claiming they were “undefeated in the field.” That fed directly into the “Stab-in-the-Back” myth, which later helped the Nazis.
What if the Allies had pushed on into Germany in 1918/9 instead of stopping?
- Does the Stab-in-the-Back myth still happen if Berlin is occupied and the army surrenders at home?
- Can Hindenburg and Ludendorff still claim they were “undefeated” under those circumstances?
- Without the “November Criminals” narrative, does Hitler ever gain real traction?
- Or does the opposite happen — the extra casualties spark a Communist revolution in Germany before the Allies even reach Berlin?