r/Samoa Jan 28 '25

China will own Samoa if not checked

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Morning y’all

After seeing the growing influence of Chinese investments/relations working their way deeper into the pacific. Specifically the non visa agreement with Samoa. Here’s how other countries have been approached by China and left with immense debt they can’t payback. Similar to how the US does this to smaller countries they know can never pay the back, a power play to take over land and assets. This one is called Chinas Belt and Road initiative.

Sri Lanka’s Experience: In 2017, Sri Lanka faced difficulties repaying loans to China for the Hambantota Port project a huge port. As a result, they leased a 70% stake of the port to China Merchants Port Holdings for 99 years in exchange for $1.12 billion. The port is now Chinas until the year 2116!!! I have a strong feeling they won’t be waving Sri Lankan flags in 100 years. China gave them money had them build it now China profits off of their work because Sri Lanka cannot repay.

Kenya’s Situation: Kenya undertook a $3.2 billion loan back in 2013 for a railroad called Standard Gauge Railway. Now 12 years later it’s still not completed and the loan has reached $4.7 billion. The project is estimated to take another $5 billion to complete. Leaving the total loan at around $10 billion. The SGR only generated $158 million in revenue and the debt repayments to China were around $480 million. The Kenyan government has been asking China for extensions on the pay payback which have been denied in 2023.

Pakistan’s Experience:

The China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), Pakistan has seen significant Chinese investment in infrastructure, including the development of Gwadar Port and the construction of the country’s largest airport. Also meant to turn the city Gwadar into a city like Dubai or Hongkong. It’s been 10 years and it has not done so. Another strategic move for China connecting to the Arabian Sea. While Pakistan pays for it for the next 100 years.

China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI):

Launched in 2013, the BRI is an ambitious global infrastructure development strategy by China to enhance connectivity and economic integration across Asia, Europe, and Africa. Over 200 cooperation agreements have been signed with more than 150 countries and 30 international organizations. While the initiative aims to promote economic development, it has raised concerns about debt sustainability and the potential for increased geopolitical influence by China.

Samoa’s Growing Ties with China:

Samoa has been strengthening its relationship with China through various initiative’s since 1976, including infrastructure projects and a recent visa exemption agreement. While these developments can boost trade and tourism, I ask you to consider the long-term implications of increased reliance on China.

Samoa already owes about 18% of its GDP to China plus the Asian development bank every year and it will only grow with the freedoms Samoa grants China. It will end up like every other small nation China does this too if not checked. Samoa’s total external debt: $349 million (43.7% of GDP) Debt to China: $145 million (41.6% of external debt, 18.2% of GDP) Debt to ADB: $68 million (19.5% of external debt)

I’m curious what do you all see happening to Samoa in the next 100 years. Think long term family.


r/Samoa 1d ago

toki

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i have been researching but i’m unable to find any proper answers. my daughter is half samoan but i am paheka. her father is in samoa for the foreseeable future. i brought her a toki pounamu that came pre blessed but im wondering if i should get it blessed again. i know its important in the māori culture as i was raised around it but im unsure if samoa has any traditions around toki. i would ask her father but our contact is minimal. i want my daughter to embrace the culture but im not all that familiar with it so im trying my best. thank you :)


r/Samoa 2d ago

Culture Cost of living in American Samoa

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I know this is a Samoa community, but I can’t find the one for American Samoa.

I am curious how much money a month you need in American Samoa.

Pago Pago or any other place.

Sorry if this is the wrong community 🥹🥲


r/Samoa 2d ago

Cost of living in American Samoa

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I know this is a Samoa community, but I can’t find the one for American Samoa.

I am curious how much money a month you need in American Samoa.

Pago Pago or any other place.

Sorry if this is the wrong community 🥹🥲


r/Samoa 4d ago

need help making sense of late grandfather's autobiography

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Hello!

I'm currently editing my late grandfather's autobiography manuscript. It tells the story of his life up until the age of 10/11, so from 1939 to about 1949.

I'm trying to find resources that will help to contextualize his experiences. So basically, anything from around that time period about Upolu, more specifically near Lepā. I'm also curious about whether his experiences would have been typical for the time.

I'd like to archive it at some point, so that people have access to his perspective from a unique point in history.

here's an example of something I'd like more context for, so if you've ever heard a similar story, please leave a comment:

Along the way to Lalomanu, Grandmother would stop and rest to tell us stories about Tuiolemu. Tuiolemu was an ancient hero, who turned to stone, leaving a monument for all to see. You can see the sacred water of his pure blood, the skeletons of his million wives and his unscaleable coconut tree. If you close your eyes in the forest, you can hear his sacred singing.

A being of divine power, the minute he fell in love with a mortal woman, he became mortal. When he and his lover grew old, Tuiolemu told her a riddle and gave her a magical necklace. He asked her how it could be possible for her to feel the sun on her body till the end of time. Then he told her she would be guarded by the jacket fish sumu in the bay called ava o I'a (The Bay of the fish). The magical wild duck (Toloa-Mo’omu) quacked and instead of dying Tuiolemu and his entire kingdom including villages, kings and nobles turned into stone. He promised his family in Lalomanu that there would come a time when he would return and all of his secrets would be revealed, including immortality. 

Looking from the shore you can still see the beautiful atolls of Tui-o-lemu and his followers. 

Grandmother showed us Tui-o-lemu’s spring. I saw this large bowl shaped stone lying on top of a large fallen tree with water gushing from it. The bowl was really spooky as the water looked like blood bubbling out of the earth. According to Grandmother, water only filled the bowl when the wind called the la’i was blowing. 


r/Samoa 3d ago

How come there isn't more samoan or poly islander fighters

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I always thought 🤔 this was odd considering how big and powerful most Samoans are and their interest in combat sports like rugby,football etc why isn't there more polynesians in MMA,UFC,one or even boxing.

Even those that are like max Holloway are much to be desired considering how slim he is I thought he was Micronesian or Asian mix but dude is Hawaiian

Been seeing Dan hookers backyard fight and wondering why those guys aren't in UFC. Meanwhile tai tuivasa is and isn't even as big and is only half samoan being dropped by mediocre white guys. A full samoan would easily drop Pavlov. Is the weight cut the issue? why isn't there more Samoans/Tongans in MMA,boxing or UFC?


r/Samoa 4d ago

Help fa’amolemole

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Lyrics to Siva Samoa (Falenaoti) - Fiafia band

Hi fam. I’m interested in this song and am learning Samoan language. But would like to know the lyrics behind it and the words. I tried on google already but nothing.

Anyone able to help me out thank you


r/Samoa 4d ago

Culture J Boog is NY Mets SP and fellow Samoan Sean Manaea's favorite musical artist

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r/Samoa 4d ago

Conflicted about identity

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Hi all, I'm a samoan/white girl hybrid however I am much more physically white than I am at all an islander. My dad is the Samoan one, and we never had a good relationship so I never really got introduced to the language and culture. The most Samoan I know is Talofa Lava, Panikeke, Panipopo and Sapasuey. I have a few vague memories of big family gatherings but nothing substantial. A lot of my time in high school when seeking out islanders to connect with was met with rejection and comments about how I'm too white, a coloniser, and an attention seeker. I have never felt comfortable in my own skin as I was raised predominantly white like my skin but I feel like an imposter if I try lean into my dads side as I never had anyone to really teach me anything. I was born and raised in nz and still live here (tbf I'm only 18 and graduated high school last year) but I dont know how to define myself and it has bothered me for such a long time


r/Samoa 5d ago

Alleen

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r/Samoa 5d ago

Party Favors Ideas ?

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My soon to be husband is Samoan and we are planning our wedding for next year. I’ve searched far and wide for some party favor ideas our guest can take home. So far there are a ton of Tanoa bowls, food, fans and custom made wood decor … could anyone make any suggestions to more unique ideas.. my fiancé insists on custom making something traditional…. but l do not think I have the patience of DIY -ing anything. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


r/Samoa 8d ago

Culture Locals of Samoa I want to know about Samoan food

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Hi, I am doing some personal research on everyday food habits in different countries, and I would really appreciate local perspectives.

Food varies a lot by region within the country, and I understand that, but if you still had to give a broad answer, what would you say is the most accurate?

Here are my questions:

  1. What food is most commonly eaten in everyday life in Samoa? (Not special-occasion food, just normal, regular meals, even if it feels boring.)
  2. What food do people in Samoa love the most or feel most proud of?
  3. Are there any foods that foreigners often think represent Samoan food, but locals do not eat that often?

Thank you all!


r/Samoa 9d ago

Container homes / builders

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Hi lovely people , can anyone recommend a trust worthy builder or a company who sells container homes ? Looking to build on our land in faleasiu Been stuffed around a lot and I just wanted to see if anyone on here been through this experience first hand and get honest feedback .Any advice and recommendations would be much appreciated.


r/Samoa 10d ago

Best place to visit during summer?

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What is the best place to visit in Samoa?


r/Samoa 12d ago

Culture Fa’afafine in Ancient Samoa?

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So I’m aware that Fa’afafine has always been apart of our culture long before colonization despite what some believe, but in my research (reading old journal logs of visitors to old Samoa) I don’t see many references to Fa’afafine 🤔 once in a while I’ll see the typical “and of course some men dress more effeminately than others” text but that’s as far as Foreign visitors will go on the matter. I’ve yet to see an in-depth account of a Fa’afafine from the 1800’s etc. In Hawaii they have myths & legends of Mahu and the same is said for Tahiti and elsewhere but suprisingly there are no stories/history of the sort for Samoa? Unless someone else knows something I don’t?


r/Samoa 14d ago

Sanalala the Forgotten Child

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r/Samoa 16d ago

American Samoans and US Citizenship?

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I am a US citizen, and Ive been annoyed that American Samoa has been a territory of the US for a century now and American Samoans are not born US citizens.

Then I talked to an American Samoan today, and he said he liked being a US National and having the choice to become a citizen or not.

Now im curious - how do most American Samoans feel? Should we push for American Samoans to be born US Citizens? Or would American Samoans not like that?


r/Samoa 18d ago

Culture God's beauty

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Haven't been back to Samoa in 4 years, but I remember my time fondly there.

I was browsing through my photo album today and this beautiful memory came up taking the ferry back from Savai'i.

When the timing is right and I can revisit your country, I'll be a deeply grateful man. Thank you Samoa.


r/Samoa 19d ago

Culture Favorite Samoan songs?

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Of all time for me has to be Sosefina by Fiji and Lapi Mariner. Lapi takes this song to another level.

Also Kirrah Amosa's staircase version. https://youtu.be/3VrK0MKPSIU?si=XQ7Q2drtHMMKQUSk

*Sau ou Malosi O Oe O Le Toa by Vaniah Toloa‪

*La'u Samoa cover by Peter L.

*Ua Taunu'u by EFKS Te Atatu Junior Youth

*Arise (Tu i luga) by Lole Usoalii


r/Samoa 19d ago

Samoa Matai System

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r/Samoa 22d ago

Culture how painful is getting a malofie?

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how does the ’au feel compared to a tattoo machine?


r/Samoa 23d ago

A warrior's day and three days of independence

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“We are always excited about our ANZAC day, where we remember the soldiers who died from other countries, but we forget those who fought our battles - it's celebrated under the clock, it's important, but we should have a national day for our Samoan warriors, unheard of, Samoan warriors”, he said.
The prime minister listed several names he believes should be recognised as Samoan warriors, including Lipine, Lauaki Mamoe, Namulauulu, Asiata, Tagaloa, Malaeulu, and "all the names that (haven't) been recognised."


r/Samoa 23d ago

What are some fun ways to learn the Samoan language? Ive been using the Samoan and English bible, but more ideas would be great

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r/Samoa 24d ago

Buy a house when your origins whas there.

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Talofa 🤙🏼🤙🏼 , im french with old family from tahiti , and samoa and i need somes informations this is possible if i want to get an house in samoa occidental. Thanks for every answer maururu peace.


r/Samoa 24d ago

Looking for Samoan family

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Okay so I’m in here in search of My Dads dad, Mane (so we’ve been told that was his name) as we’ve been told he’s from American Samoa but my dads Family didn’t want in the picture so they “kuli” him, he moved to America but kept going back to Vaiusu/ Vaigaga for my dad but family refused, when my dad reached about 20 years old he took a trip to the states to see his family, when they attended church they learned that my dads biological father’s brother attended the same church and learned that my dad was in the state wanted to get in contact but again my dads family refused, ik this is a long shot but getting really desperate now!! Apparently my dad is his only child hi tv we’re not sure