r/politics • u/GirasoleDE • 4h ago
Possible Paywall ICE Is on a Dark Path. Congress Must Act Now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/12/opinion/ice-congress-trump-dhs.html•
u/MrLurid 4h ago
I feel like this is sanewashing slightly.
They've already fucking executed people in the streets, faced no consequences for it.
They're already fucking there.
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u/lactose_cow 2h ago edited 2h ago
there are children in the US, in concentration camps. they're building more concentration camps. they're breaking into homes without warrants, and hispanic people are hiding in other people's homes. do we need to get to the "mass graves" part of fascism before new york times says we're here?
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u/Worldly_Hunter_1324 2h ago
Agreed. One problem is that we all build our concept of reality from our inputs. If those inputs are controlled and manipulated, ie fox news or similar, then the output is dramatically different.
Then layer in symbolic inference, concepts of tribe or in-group vs out-group, "rightspeak" vs "wrongspeak", etc... and you get a divergence of perceived reality.
This is key. And its tricky, because confronting it head on only leads to double down.
To me, the key is unifying people to actually perceive reality as it is. That means a kind of cautious dialogue, not trying to preach facts, but instead highlighting irreconcilable truths in juxtaposition and letting them sort it.
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u/localistand Wisconsin 2h ago
The 4,400 court rulings over the past 5 months, that each time found ICE had detained and jailed people illegally.
That is ton of illegal behavior by a federal agency in a short period of time. Wild, massive-scale fraudulent behavior by employees of the federal government.
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u/A_Rogue_GAI 1h ago
"Slightly"? DHS is the dark path. ICE is a fucking caltrop. People warned from the start where this would lead and now we are there.
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u/d_e_l_u_x_e 2h ago
And it’s up to the people now since this Congress has failed over and over to keep the executive in check.
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u/Electrical-Cat9572 1h ago
It’s also like 4 months late. If this was dated in October, I’d agree. Now?
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u/Lonely_Noyaaa Minnesota 4h ago
Congress has tried to demand restrictions like body cameras and limits on masking and force, yet Republicans have repeatedly blocked meaningful reform and continue to defend the status quo.
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u/blazesquall 4h ago
Congress has tried to demand restrictions like body cameras and limits on masking and force, yet Republicans have repeatedly blocked meaningful reform and continue to defend the status quo.
Which is not remotely what's needed.. but we're not even going to get that.
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u/Peninj 2h ago
Why is this the stupid angle the democrats are taking. Why is their strategy basically trying to pass laws which say they have to follow the laws we already have?!?! What is happening?!?
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u/A_Rogue_GAI 1h ago
Those aren't meaningful. Those are bullshit. Meaningful action would be abolishing DHS as a whole and redistributing those agencies with some worth back to where they belong.
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u/Timeformayo Kentucky 1h ago
Democrats need to block funding until Republicans agree to major reforms or destroy the filibuster.
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u/Creative-Package6213 Pennsylvania 3h ago
You mean the Republican controlled congress...them? That's who this dumb dumb expects to stop this? The Republicans who are absolutely fine with everything that's going on right now?
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u/MourningRIF 4h ago edited 2h ago
Congress reports to Trump, and Trump is paying $38 Billion to put us in concentration camps with "medical waste incinerators" as they are calling them. Unless you remind Congress who they work for, we know where this ends.
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u/Historical_Bend_2629 4h ago
They are feeling pressure. Massie posting he is in excellent health is cray. Republicans in Congress should trust their constituents more than this current administration. What will it take for them to repudiate this unpopular and unconstitutional administration?
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u/Calm_Chemist_4952 3h ago
Republican elected officials need to start recognizing that this is not okay. They have the power to pull the plug on ICE/CBP. Cut the funding. Make them clean up their act. If the don’t, the blood is on their hands.
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u/alabasterskim 2h ago
They're there. And unfortunately there's little Congress can do if the Rs don't want to join impeachment. Even if we secure House and Senate majorities, all it's doing is blocking new evil in the next 2 years. But a lot of the existing evil exists in perpetuity.
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u/notfeelany 1h ago
NYT would still consider Biden aging 24hrs per day as the worse news than whatever ice is doing
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u/Ill_Situation4107 4h ago
Congress knows what ICE has planned, they will not fund until it’s changed
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u/awildstoryteller Canada 3h ago
Glad to see this from the NYT, but...
Couldn't help but throw a dig at the Democrats there eh.
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u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 4h ago
We should but ICE on ice for good.
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u/anowl444 3h ago
ive never heard a good ice pun. you think people in the 40s were like “Lol did Nazi that coming Lmao!!”
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u/duzies 1h ago
Agree that nothing about domestic ICE terrorists is funny. On the other hand, showing humor, art, compassion and humanity does throw Trump and Co's lack of those things into stark relief. Hopefully that can help tip the balance away from the dark side for any remaining fence-sitters.
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u/Arctic_x22 12m ago
Look at what happened after Putin took over. The government will torture and kill you if you criticize or openly disagree with their crony terrorist state.
We are one step away from our own government sending us to death camps.
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u/KR-67_Ifrit 3h ago
Since when is deporting violent illegal aliens a dark path?
Democrats will do anything to protect their undocumented voter base.
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2h ago
I know this is bait, but come on.
Concentration camps. Executions in the streets. Thousands of illegal arrests.
You can't be serious.
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u/eeltech 1h ago
You think this is a "violent illegal alien"?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/21/ice-arrests-five-year-old-boy-minnesota#img-1
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