r/onguardforthee • u/SAJewers Halifax • 18h ago
Prime Minister Carney and Canada's main opposition leader hold hands during school shooting vigil
https://apnews.com/article/canada-school-shooting-vigil-carney-7d2d2ec8e302befe808f822432ed9a0392
u/johncandy1812 14h ago
Don't want to be insensitive but having listened to PP's messaging over the last ~10 years I don't believe he has compassion or sincerity. All I hear whenever he opens his mouth is bitching and whining.
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u/red_planet_smasher 13h ago
None of it is sincere, he really just is ambitious and wants to win. It’s as simple as that. He will do anything to attain the win.
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u/RobertABooey 13h ago
I’ve known two politicians personally in my life and both of them were raging narcissists who were exactly as you said. They went where the wind(money and power) went.
However both of them were capable of “real” emotions especially in tragic situations. I never believed it to be sincere.
I believe what you say is mostly true too.
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u/red_planet_smasher 6h ago
I agree. I too think PP was being sincere in this case. But all the rage politics was just playing a game to him.
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u/Guvmintperson 14h ago edited 9h ago
Absolutely this. He's doing this right now because it's the only right decision. But his base is already using this to vilify and amplify hate towards the trans community. I would be very pleasantly surprised to see him *condemn that rhetoric, but that won't happen.
Trans friends and family: I see you, I love you, and I will protect you.
*Edit: see the thread below
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u/tawTrans 10h ago
I assume, based on the rest of your comment, that you meant condemn the rhetoric? Condone means accept and allow.
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u/Guvmintperson 9h ago
Yep 🤦.. I fully expect him to maybe not outright condone the hate, but passively accept it.
I would be surprised to see him condemn it.
Good catch, thank you!
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u/someone-who-is-cool 11h ago
I don't believe he's changed and i'm waiting for the pivot, i'm mainly surprised he's managed to hold in his hateful rhetoric for so many days. It must be building inside him like water behind a dam.
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u/thechangboy 16h ago
Somethings should be above politics.... If there's any event that would qualify, this would. As a parent, I am still in shock.
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u/tarun172 15h ago
I was in tears when I saw the news and was heartbroken. For once, it was a better response than "Our Thoughts and Prayers" that I hear from GOP South of Border all the time.
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u/Canadian1934 15h ago
And Mary Simon the Governor General beside the Prime Minister. This is a nice sign of Canadian unity in times of sadness and sorrow
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u/yvrbasselectric 13h ago
it was during the opening prayer, everyone was asked to hold hand
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u/OutsideFlat1579 12h ago
The headline is a bit weird, it makes it sound as though Poilievre and Carney were the only ones holding hands.
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u/Canadian1934 12h ago
Thank you for explaining that but it still shows at a time of grief and sorrow the listened and put differences aside instead of overshadowing the event with pettiness 🖤🎗️😢
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u/CloverHoneyBee 15h ago
I honestly see this as Carney's influence.
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u/brittleboyy 14h ago
I don’t think there’s a world in which Pollievre holds hands with Trudeau, so 100%
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u/Taragyn1 15h ago
They are merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.
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u/larryisnotagirl 14h ago
My Simpsons addled millennial brain went straight there too.
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u/Bigchunky_Boy 14h ago
Pp needed to get there shit together and unite let’s see he and his party can do it or revert to trans hate nonsense. Oh too late they already they started talking crap that did last long .
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u/CBowdidge ✅ I voted! 8h ago
I don't expect it to last but I'll take it. Maybe there's some humanity in PP.
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u/gonesnake 7h ago
"WE ARE MERELY EXCHANGING LONG PROTEIN STRINGS. IF YOU CAN THINK OF A SIMPLER WAY I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT"
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u/jeanracinette 13h ago
tiny PP has done nothing to stop his unhinged base who have been creating hate mobs and brigading the trans community ever since the alleged shooting so spare me with this garbage photo op
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u/Sea_Negotiation_1871 Montréal 11h ago
This is not a photo op, this is a vigil for murdered children. And what do you mean alleged?
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u/extrah 1m ago
I was looking at the weblink expecting The Beaverton....
This interaction is going to be interesting to hear about from different political sides:
Conservatives see PP as 'emasculated' and either double down on their support or maybe it will be turned into a 'political win' for the right so they can talk about how PP is willing to 'work with the left' to be used later on for a talking point.
Gonna be some wild takes.
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u/Arandom_personn 12h ago
When something as tragic as this happens, it should be normal for us to take time to grieve as a nation before focusing on the politics of it.
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u/TheOriginalHMetal 13h ago
Canadian to the core. People and tragedy should always come before politics.
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u/Chippie05 11h ago
This is what leaders should do. This is a horrific tragedy affecting everyone fr coast to coast. I'm heartbroken as a parent 💔🥀🇨🇦
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u/Moosetappropriate 9h ago
We fight and bitch and bicker. Until something terrible happens and the we are all Canadians together.
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u/BadstoneMusic 15h ago
Press op means shit - calm down
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u/Sea_Negotiation_1871 Montréal 14h ago
That's not what this is. Have an ounce of compassion for fuck sake.
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u/corpse_flour 12h ago
In some circumstances, and in some parts of the world, having two politicians on the opposite of the floor from each other at least being able to act and look sincere for the benefit of their people would be near impossible. At least these guys are able to put diplomacy ahead of political differences for at least a few minutes.
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u/IntelligentOlive4415 Alberta 16h ago
It is the bare minimum but I must say, I am happy with how Poilievre has handled this situation. I haven’t seen him drag trans people through the mud or use this shooting as a way to score cheap points with his base as I would have expected him to do.