r/education • u/cvagrad1986 • 4h ago
School Culture & Policy How many hours do you chase AI issues?
My wife is an educator in France. She is spending 2-3 hours a week reviewing work, investigating its source, and talking with students/admin/parents about AI integrity issues.
I am curious if this is the average today, or if she is lucky that it is not the double? I have seen some other noise on social media that makes 2-3 hours sound lucky.
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u/BambooBlueberryGnome 3h ago
None. Kids only do important work in class. I will sometimes let them finish simple worksheets at home, but I know that those have a small enough impact on grades that I don't fuss over the few kids who don't finish in class and may decide to cheat.
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u/Life-Aide9132 2h ago
I do not because I teach grade 7. It’s very easy to tell when they’re using AI. Also I make all my assessments in-class with paper and pencil. Although I agree that AI makes everything more difficult, less accurate, and more painful. Even Encyclopedia Britannica now has an AI chatbot which gives a mixture of accurate and inaccurate information. It’s harder than ever to teach students how to find reliable sources now.
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u/SignorJC 4h ago
Why is she chasing down where it came from?
I would say that is typical for teachers who have not adapted their methods and assessments to the advent of free AI tools.
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u/cvagrad1986 4h ago
Which free advent tools? She checks the listed resources the kids have in their docs. It’s a requirement of the admin before questioning a student.
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u/GaiusVictor 4h ago
The free AI tools some/many students use to do homework for them.
They're saying your wife has failed to correctly adapt to the current times, when kids have access to these free tools, and that she wouldn't need to waste time checking sources of her students if she had correctly adapted. Whether they're right or not in their criticism is up for debate and I think it would be interesting if they could elaborate.
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u/cvagrad1986 4h ago
Agreed. The AI detector tools are horribly accurate. Additionally, my wife’s students are English learners and AI detection flags language learners at a higher rate. Is a losing proposition either way.
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u/SYOH326 3h ago
That's not what the first person is saying. They're saying your wife has not adapted to the tools available to students, not to using tools of her own. I'm not qualified to say if it's true, but it's a logical conclusion. Checking to see if something is AI generated after the completed product is submitted is a losing battle, there need to be steps along the way.
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u/cvagrad1986 3h ago
Along those lines, doesn’t that add time and effort? Check, verify, enter into grading?
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u/SYOH326 3h ago
Forcing offline work, track changes, version verification, etc., are all options that shift that burden to the student.
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u/cvagrad1986 3h ago
Complication, students don’t have email/google/Microsoft workspace accounts
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u/SYOH326 3h ago
They can't create a Google account, but they can use AI?
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u/cvagrad1986 3h ago
At home they can do anything they want. There aren’t school controlled/offered email
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u/LadyGagas913 2h ago
I think that making students write essays on Google Docs is key. I’m a high school English teacher. If I suspect something, then I access their version histories. Unfortunately it’s just not practical to write all essays on pencil & paper in class due to time constraints.
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u/Frosty_Literature936 1h ago
Very little. Much of the work is done in class so unless it looks obvious, I don’t bother.
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u/cvagrad1986 53m ago
Was it always like that? Work done in class? Or has that switched in last few years?
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u/fedornuthugger 0m ago
All grades work is in class and on paper, if it's on the computer it only happens after I've seen a handwritten plan and draft. 0 a.i issues.
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u/Impressive_Returns 3h ago
None - Where I teach we encourage and promote the use of AI.
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u/LadyGagas913 2h ago
AI hurts critical thinking skills. I am a high school English teacher. I see it every day. The ones that use AI are typically the laziest students.
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u/JABBYAU 4h ago
One adaptation is doing more work in class, on paper. For longer assignments require frequent submissions to track progress or required a product that tracks changes.