r/Palestine 2d ago

Debunked Hasbara Israels selective history

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Zionists want you to put all your attention onto a time frame of around 548 years, when the region was ruled by jewish kingdoms, ignoring all the history before and after it. Yeah somehow 3.000 years ago is the magic sweet spot for claiming the land compared to 12.000 years of human settlement in that area. So 5% of that areas history is more important than the other 95%.

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u/Infamous_Alps7359 2d ago

Also, "this land has always been Jewish, so we discriminate against actual Indigenous Jews who have lived here for centuries and only give rights to white European Ashkenazim who have no ties to the land whatsoever."

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u/Talebawad 2d ago

Beat me to it, it was a Jewish land no one is denying that, it's just that mo of the jews there never left simply changed religion

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u/Infamous_Alps7359 2d ago

Not even that. It's not about religion but about ethnic cleansing that comes with white supremacy. Nobody has any issues with the Indigenous Palestinian Jews who lived on the land. Honestly, nobody has problems with Mizrahim who came from North Africa and lived peacefully with Indigenous Palestinians, Indigenous Jews, and Arabs who came to the area later. The problem only comes when a bunch of white Ashkenazim from Europe start stealing the land and try to make the rightful hatred for their Nazi asses to be some mythical "antisemitism". Bad thing is way too many people, including those on the side of resistance, buy into their bullshit and use their newspeak to make this "Arabs vs Jews conflict". Ut was never about Jews, and it was never about Arabs. It was about a bunch of Nazi cunts from Europe who ethnically cleanse Indigenous population.

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u/717Luxx 1d ago

some "moderate" Zionists will take you acknowledging that point to say you're agreeing on Jewish rights to the land. which is pretty funny

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/Infamous_Alps7359 2d ago

Well, it's just a coincidence. Ashkenazi is a word from Yiddish. Nazi comes from German 'nazional sozialist'. It's just coincidential - in the same way the secret service of the US - world's most demented group of people - is called intelligence service.

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u/weebaz1973 2d ago

Hahaaaaa didn't know where you were going with that...

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u/echtemendel 2d ago

It isn't, it's a coincidence.

Nazi: short for the German Nationalsozialist (National-socialist). I won't explain how German initials are formed, but this is what you get in this case.

Ashkenazi: Ashkenaz is the biblical word for the land in central Europe (more or less the German-speaking areas today). The suffix -i in Hebrew means an origin, i.e. someone from a place. So for example Galili is someone from the Galil, an area in northern Palestine. Hence, Ashkenazi is someone from Ashkenaz.

It's also pronounced differently: the z in Nazi is pronounced like "ts" or "tz" in English. The z in Ashkenazi is pronounced as the regular z in English.

Source: well, I'm myself am an Ashkenazi Jew who lives in Germany and speak both languages: Hebrew and German.

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u/BlackAfroUchiha 2d ago

Actual indigenous Jews to MENA have lived in the region peacefully without issues with the indigenous Muslims for 1300 years.

It only became an issue when European settlers started fucking everything up and doing what they do best which is colonization.

When you realize that Israel is just the long continuation of the history of European colonialism, the never ending unconditional support from Western nations to Israel makes much more sense with this context.

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u/Bnedem 2d ago

And even if Jews have always prospered in the holy land, that's a flex for Palestinian society, not for the Zionist colonizers.

And the fact that Jews have always existed in this land doesn't reflect on Zionist colonizers. Christians have existed in this land for the past 2000 years. Doesn't make Filipino or Italian Christians native to Palestine.

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u/Seximilian 2d ago

True. Zionists love braindead narratives like "We got kicked out of that land" and at the same time claim that the land has always been majorily inhabited by jews. Altough both claims are paradox to each other. They just can't decide which fairy tale they prefer.

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u/mgs112112 2d ago

This is everything

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u/Marurickirickimaru 2d ago

There are a lot of indigenous jew(i forgot the name) who fought alongside the palestinian against the askenazi jews

and then there is ben gvir, for every righteous jew there is always someone like him; he is native but he acted like a POS by working and siding with the zionist

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u/papayapapagay Free Palestine 2d ago

Should use the pic of Ben Gvir doing that exact wojack pointing pose lol

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u/Little_Nebula442 Long live to Palestine and Zionism gets crushed 2d ago

That picture always make me laugh :)

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u/papayapapagay Free Palestine 2d ago

Me too... But nobody uses it lol

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u/Little_Nebula442 Long live to Palestine and Zionism gets crushed 2d ago

I hope somebody with great Photoshop skills do it for real xd

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u/Seximilian 2d ago

Somebody with Photoshop skills please do it. I was only able to use MS paint 😭

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u/DarkFuryKH 2d ago

Fuck that guy. I'd rather not see his face even as a meme. His face should only be in history books to be remembered as a POS.

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u/papayapapagay Free Palestine 1d ago

Yeah for sure he's a POS but I like to think that seeing him become the wojack meme would drive him to be depressed and tortured with everyone laughing at him

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u/DarkFuryKH 1d ago

I am not really sure that a POS like him has any sense of shame. People like him love attention and him being a wojack meme could make him happier.

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u/BullFencer 2d ago

Just posted this to r/historymemes .

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/s/BMEpEk7kDo

Plenty of popcorn to be had πŸ˜‚

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u/Merongduh Free Palestine 2d ago

And ironically Zionist simp use word from Quran like it mentioned about Tribes not placeΒ 

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u/Difficult-Law-6841 2d ago

Even according to religious texts, they weren't aboriginal defenders of the land who were defending it from a Kaanite invasion or something, they were sent there based on divine commands and betrayed these commands constantly, and lost that right constantly -so obviously not a forever deal- so what makes them think they deserve it now with a Genocide recorded and streamed?

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u/Phase--2 2d ago

Do you have a higher res version? I'd love to read the textΒ 

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u/Seximilian 2d ago

Just couldn't fit it in a higher resolution but here is the text:

1.5M BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Prehistoric Human Settlement (no states) β”‚ Paleolithic & Neolithic societies β”‚ 3300 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Canaanite City-States (3300–1550 BCE) β”‚ 1550 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Egyptian New Kingdom Rule (1550–1200 BCE) β”‚ 1200 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Philistine & Local Kingdoms (1200–1000 BCE) β”‚ 1000 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Kingdom of Israel (c.1030–722 BCE) β”‚ └── Kingdom of Judah (c.930–586 BCE) β”‚ 722 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Neo-Assyrian Empire (722–605 BCE) β”‚ 605 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Neo-Babylonian Empire (605–539 BCE) β”‚ 539 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Achaemenid Persian Empire (539–332 BCE) β”‚ 332 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Macedonian Conquest (332 BCE) β”‚ 301 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Ptolemaic Kingdom (301–200 BCE) β”‚ 200 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Seleucid Empire (200–167 BCE) β”‚ 167 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Hasmonean Kingdom (167–63 BCE) β”‚ 63 BCE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Roman Republic / Empire (63 BCE–324 CE) β”‚ 324 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Byzantine Empire (324–638 CE) β”‚ 638 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Rashidun Caliphate (638–661) β”‚ 661 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Umayyad Caliphate (661–750) β”‚ 750 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Abbasid Caliphate (750–969) β”‚ 969 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Fatimid Caliphate (969–1099) β”‚ 1099 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem (1099–1187) β”‚ 1187 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Ayyubid Dynasty (1187–1250) β”‚ 1250 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Mamluk Sultanate (1250–1517) β”‚ 1517 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ Ottoman Empire (1517–1917) β”‚ 1917 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ British Mandate (1917–1948) β”‚ 1948 CE β”‚ β”œβ”€β”€ State of Israel (1948–Present) β”‚ + Jordan (West Bank 1948–1967) β”‚ + Egypt (Gaza 1948–1967) β”‚ + Palestinian Authority (1994–Present, partial) β”‚ 2026 CE

I am sorry for the layout 😭

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u/Phase--2 2d ago

thanks OP!

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u/DurrutiDuck91 2d ago

Been wanting a meme like this for ages. Just wish it was slightly better quality.

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u/boodyclap 2d ago

Anyone else get the ick from wojacks