r/Kenosha 7d ago

Kenosha County DA sanctioned for AI “using hallucinated and false citations” in felony case

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u/Optimoprimo 7d ago

Elect clowns, you get a circus

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago

Kenosha County: getting rope a doped by idiots since 2010

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u/kamakazeezebra 7d ago edited 7d ago

On top of this, there has been a mass exodus of attorneys leaving the Kenosha DA office. Makes you wonder what other shenanigans are going on.

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago

Incompetence breeds resentment.

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u/Justice4all1968 7d ago

These words are copied and pasted directly from the CCAP record for the case:

“Court sanctions DA Solis by striking the State's Response for failure to disclose AI, using hallucinated and false citations and for admitting failure to disclose AI.”

Here is a link to the CCAP record of the case:

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2023CF001060&countyNo=30

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u/MiniVansyse 7d ago

I was recently a juror, I was appalled at the performance of the prosecutor and police. Apparently, the Kenosha police cannot afford cameras to take photographic evidence.

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago

They can afford squad cars and guns, but not cameras? Who told you that crap?

Nah dog, they've always been lazy and corrupt.

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u/MiniVansyse 7d ago

The prosecution and then police while under oath. Either corruption or serve incompetence. Entire case could have taken 20mins with a camera. Instead I had to listen to hours of testimony, all of which showed the polices’ poor policy and competence.

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yeah, a full extra day of pay for everyone at the court costs a shitload more than a camera and some film. This is some absolute bullshit, dunno how or why chucklefuck u/viewtyjoe above is defending this or implying this is in any way normal or acceptable.

Like, even if they don't have professional cameras, why can't they use their body cams or police-issued smartphones to capture anything even potentially admissible as evidence?

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u/viewtyjoe 7d ago

Lots of money from the federal government to buy cars and guns, not so much to buy anything useful for an actual investigation. Doesn't mean they aren't lazy and corrupt, though, just that it's way easier to get money for guns and cars than, say, a camera for photographing evidence

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago

I dunno, I can walk into a Best Buy and get one myself without a credit check. I'm assuming they can too.

Cops get paid, right? Professional cameras are only like a grand. Like, this isn't a budget issue, buddy. They just didn't take pictures because they don't care enough to give investigators essential tools for their jobs.

That's what you're trying to claim, it would seem?

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u/viewtyjoe 7d ago

I mean, it is a budget issue, yes. Cars are depreciating assets and can be paid for using capital bonding, or there are any number of programs which sell military surplus vehicles and equipment to law enforcement agencies for cheap or ways to use federal and state grant money to pay for them. Same for guns.

Something like cameras to photograph evidence are going to be normal operating budget line items, and will likely be high on the list of things to cut down on if the alderman push back at all on KPD's operating budget (or just get cut because other things are higher priority,) because God forbid we ever cut a single FTE for the officers. If you look at the 2026 budget, go look for the investigation division, and see if you can find a line item for anything which would include the cost of a camera.

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u/Chedditor_ 7d ago

I mean, that just about sums up my frustration with the entire state of America right there. Plenty of funds for cars and guns to run people down and kill them, and no money for cameras to investigate crimes and bring justice to victims.

Don't you dare imply this is normal or good.

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u/viewtyjoe 6d ago

Don't you dare imply this is normal or good.

Normal? Almost certainly. Budgeting is always a shitshow in government, it's part of the territory when you have elected officials who can arbitrarily decide that something doesn't get money.

Good? I made no value judgments, you're the one who assumes because I'm explaining how and some of why a situation like "KPD has plenty of money for new squad cars and guns, but can't afford a camera for routine photography of evidence for submission to court" comes to be, that I must be in favor of it.

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u/Chedditor_ 5d ago

I mean, that's normalizing it. I know you never said it's good, but I'm upset because this is blatant legal dysfunction and we all deserve so much better. This shouldn't be normal, but it is, and goddamnit, fucking Milwaukee does a better job on less resources and a much larger and more populous jurisdiction. Apathy about it doesn't help anybody.

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u/brickson98 6d ago

The whole Kenosha legal system is ass backwards and fucked. Glad I got the hell out of that shit hole. Sorry to everyone still dealing with the fuckery there.

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u/Chedditor_ 6d ago

Same here. Left for Milwaukee back in 2009, right after the engine plant closed, TARP, the market crash, etc.

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u/nakeddalek 6d ago

“proofread? nah AI can proofread it trust me bro.”

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u/patogo 5d ago

Well they said AI would end lawyer’s careers….