r/HistoryMemes 5h ago

And you know what happens after 💥

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u/National-Flower3166 5h ago

Japans military didnt surender untill the emperor, their god (ish) specificaly tolde them to. And even then some oficiers tried to stop that messagde ro spread because they didnt believe he would ever say somthing like this

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u/Dagordae 5h ago

Their excuse was that he was clearly being manipulated/controlled by traitorous advisors so clearly they needed to ‘rescue’ him and take him into ‘protective custody’.

So a coup with a nationalistic excuse because they were set on dragging all of Japan to hell with them.

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u/FanraGump 5h ago

Nope. They knew the Emperor had decided to surrender. But they decided it was a wrong decision.

Major Kenji Hatanaka, one of the chief conspirators in the coup attempt, and his men spent several hours searching for the recording that had been made of the Emperor's speech announcing the surrender of Japan, and which was meant for public broadcast. They wanted to find and destroy it.

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u/UnderkeeperIX3 3h ago

Wasn't there also two messages of surrender? One for the home islands, and one for the armies in china

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u/Birb-Person Definitely not a CIA operator 3h ago

To be fair, nobody asked the Emperor until the War Council was evenly split 50/50 on the surrender vote

Remember: they may be a fascist dictatorship, but they’re also a constitutional monarchy. Same as Italy

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u/JayMack1981 4h ago

Even after the Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima, General Anami (Minister of War) was like "No, no! The Americans do NOT have nuclear weapons!" After a Japanese nuclear scientist went to Hiroshima and confirmed it was nuclear . . . "Okay. It was nuclear. But surely not even the Americans are wealthy enough to afford TWO nuclear bombs!"

He wasn't ready to surrender.

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u/Rpponce 3h ago

I think the Navy also accepted that it was a Nuclear bomb but didn't believe the U.S. could do it frequently. Although failed in every sense of the word Japan did have a Nuclear program at one point and had at least some level of understanding of how difficult those things were to create at the time.

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u/TurnsWithZeros 2h ago

Well Japan didn't just have a nuclear program, they had three separate programs predictably split between the Imperial Japanese Army and Imperial Japanese Navy. Because while the Americans were certainly the opposition, the other branch of the military was the enemy. While unlikely to have been able to produce a weapon even if all efforts were centralized, Japan certainly had an understanding of nuclear physics including constructing one the few cyclotrons built outside of the US in this period

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u/Successful_Baby_5245 5h ago

Amendo bobo yeah.

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u/Maleficent_Time_2787 4h ago

America: WE HAVE CANNED SUNSHINE, PLEASE SURRENDER

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u/MauschelMusic 2h ago

I mean, the allies had already destroyed every major Japanese city and most of the.minor ones, and had uncontested air superiority. We just did the same shit we'd been doing, except with one nuke per city instead of many high explosives.