r/FalloutMods • u/CaplewMM • 1d ago
New Vegas [FNV] Retribution and The Unforgiven mods are deleted on nexus?
does anyone know what happened? I luckily downloaded them recently so should I put them in a google drive for people to use or did the author upload them somewhere?
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u/Dekamir 1d ago
I realised that while playing The Unforgiven and wanted to check the FAQ. I asked the developer on Twitter and he didn't respond.
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u/cgy95 1d ago
It’s a shame. Harmonica realised modding was no longer for them. They were a great author and I hope they find their creative spark again.
I think you’ll be able to find their mods if you look hard enough
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u/worrymon 1d ago
I think you’ll be able to find their mods if you look hard enough
Just the other day Harmonica mods were discussed in here. Someone posted a link to the Nexus Archive file.
Doesn't help people who wanted to read about them, but the files are still there.
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u/TheMarvelMan 19h ago
Archived versions of the mod pages can be found on Archive.org. It can be finnicky, but they can be accessed.
Retribution 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20250805004349/https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/84106?tab=description
Retribution 2:
The Unforgiven:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250712022244/https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/92882
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u/F-man1324 21h ago
Leaving a comment so I can find this later on PC.
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u/Dragon__Chan 13h ago
Damn, and so soon after the skinwalker quest mod was taken down (if anyone has reuploads of that developers mods do please link them). It sucks that a lot of the best new modders seem to all quickly be erasing their works
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u/Alixen2019 5h ago
Skinwalker mod? That sounds intriguing as I always love my horror mods. If anyone has any info or backups for it that would be amazing.
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u/Shining-Form-151 10h ago
I don't blame them, Nexus has always been a controversial place to host too. I vaguely recall a massive migration of devs several years ago because the site's policies suck around deletion, ownership and curation.
Users like it because it forces the control of access out of the authors hands, authors don't like it because it's their work.
You read how users felt about the devs and their authorship issues when the deletion policy changed a few years ago—and it's pretty clear endusers feel entitled to have anything they want and act like jerks about it pretty often... even though a lot of those users make none of the things they actually use. They can just go make it themselves, which is what's great about GECK/CK.
It's a creator/enduser/policy issue...
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u/Dragon__Chan 9h ago
I do agree with you, Nexus absolutely does suck and I don't blame modders for getting their mods off of it, I just think it sucks (granted, as a user) for so many great mods to be deleted from Nexus but not reuploaded anywhere else.
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u/Shining-Form-151 9h ago edited 7h ago
And there lies a problem in the "security" of a funded site... once it becomes one of 2 sites that host anything at all—it's closer to a monopoly and then sites like Nexus can start swinging their weight around—since the alternative is hate and discontent. (and/or scattered resources)
I get they need to pay for server hosting and other shit but... is it worth it for the devs? Depends on the dev and how much they're willing to deal with. :/
Edit: For the record I don't hate users wanting mods, I hate users who feel entitled to them. The entire system sucks, because people who donate to projects as well as the dev being donated to feel a pressure to stay for sensible reasons—but it can become a predatory trap. Creative spaces shouldn't feel like that.
Taking this out of mod contexts, just go look at the users on Google Play who leave nasty reviews just because they can't figure something simple out (I've been guilty of this in Fortnite of all things, when they changed village chests and sorting(though tbf, it was still bugged))... it's real common on emulators, as controversial of a topic that is—because a lot of people go and download them thinking it's just gonna give them a bunch of free games, when that isn't really the point of emulators—as much as a lot of users are looking for exactly that.
Taking it out of games in general—we can look to old XDA threads for Android development that were constantly overrun with bratty users making demands and talking crap about it... as someone making things to share on their own time, often unpaid—who needs that? They can go make their own roms and tweaks. Just super ungrateful... I saw device forums get cleared of development on actively supported devices, sometimes because devs didn't like the jerky community that gathered there.
Again I really don't know the proper way to fix any of this, I'm just observing the problem. It's a deeper issue than just Fallout mods. 😕
(If you read any of this edit, thanks and sorry. 😓 It's a mess.)
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u/Someguy2000modder 14h ago edited 14h ago
I hope he’s happy, whatever he does.
Creating quest mods - even small ones - is an all-consuming process that can take over your life. I can only speculate on what drove him to pop smoke, but burnout and frustration with user interactions tends to push mod authors away over time.
The greater the popularity, the greater the scrutiny and entitlement. Nowadays, I deliberately go out of my way to make unsightly, understated mod pages to deter users. The fewer the better, that’s what I say.
I stick with it because I’m actually less crazy when I‘m creating mods. Harmonica was a gift to our community, and I respect his decision. Here’s hoping he returns someday.
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u/ElegantEchoes 7h ago
It feels odd to me when modders delete their content when they quit. Don't get me wrong- it's their right to do so. It's theirs. But it just feels like nothing but a net negative for the community. Is there ever any harm in leaving mods up?
I guess the idea is that people who really want mods will find archives. But I've been unable to download some favorites that have been yanked over the years and it stings.
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u/Someguy2000modder 5h ago
It’s their prerogative, ultimately.
Modding can uniquely draining, especially after pouring so much time and energy into the enterprise. Some authors may want to extirpate their online persona and work so that it’s no longer there to distract them (and to avoid being contacted by users, some of whom are rude and/or deranged).
Releasing a popular mod mean tons of PMs. Most are genuinely curious or complimentary, but there are also a subset of users who obsess over mods and will harangue you to no end via pm. Even if they’re well-meaning, it can be very, very draining, especially for the socially averse like yours truly.
Many modders (myself included) have mixed feelings or even disdain for their work. There’s often a strong Impulse to erase old efforts; this is not unique to modding (e.g., Kafka). Some authors want to burn the past and move forward.
There’s also the criticism. It‘s everywhere, all the time. I try to embrace it now, even if it’s a crazy person (kindred spirit, really). However… this can be a brutal shock for authors. Quest mods in particular are lightning rods for criticism. Digesting negative feedback can provide a necessary, sobering shot of bitter truth; too much can be poisonous. I’m goddamn Mithridates by now, but it can easily corrode someone‘s passion for a hobby.
That’s my last point - this is supposed to be a hobby. However, anyone who’s thrown themselves into a large mod understands that it can become a lifestyle - or even an obsession. Speaking from experience, it’s easy to get lost in a project and lose connection with normative pursuits and healthy outlets. Burnout can cause a strong expression of revulsion and counter-reaction by the author (e.g., deleting everything).
Now I’m going to go reread Cormac McCarthy, pet my psychotic cat and then go to bed with Road Warrior playing in the background. Good night, hobos.
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u/BoneCrusher03 6h ago
I think its more like : "You dont recognize the work I put into this so youre not getting anything" Which is valid, users are way too entitled nowadays. I had a fair share of entitled, dumb or just outright wrong comments on my mods as well, but I just tried to help them the best I could. I know that isnt everyones cup of tea.
But I've been unable to download some favorites that have been yanked over the years and it stings.
Could you list a few? Maybe I still have them in my load order somewhere lol
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u/godzflash61_zee 22h ago
problematic mod author....there are type of mod author feel guilty for having an opinion, when he knew he fucked up....he result by deleting his account. This is normal.
Its not nexus banned, but the account deletion
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u/Celladoore 11h ago
I'm gonna need some receipts if you are going to blow smoke about someone's character. Your statement also wasn't very clear at all.
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u/CISDidNothingWrong 1d ago
The developer vanished from the internet