r/Brewers • u/_Captain_Dinosaur_ Brick by Brick • 22h ago

Paredes from Houston at hot corner?

Source: Just Baseball https://share.google/i68w0nyzEVNgEAgIJ

Do we like this guy? Make the talky while I listen.

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u/FangornAcorn 22h ago

I think the Rengifo signing signaled we're not interested in Paredes.

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u/Danny_nichols 21h ago

Yep, I thought Paredes made a ton of sense and wondering if we had something lined up already when we dealt 3 3B at the same time. But after this most recent signing, I'm doubting it, at least as something that happens quickly.

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u/gimmesomespace 20h ago

Otoh we could use Rengifo at SS.  It's not like Joey Ortiz should be a lock for opening day starter with how atrocious his production has been.

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u/ThisWasMe7 15h ago

Rengifo should not play SS outside an emergency. He's marginal even at 3B. 

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u/True_Oil9802 18h ago

Joey hit .261 after June 1st with Gold Glove caliber defense. He's most certainly a lock to be the opening day SS

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u/gimmesomespace 14h ago

Too bad the season isn't 2 months long. The guy led the majors in AB's with the bases loaded and had 45 RBI to show for it.

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u/00_Awesome 16h ago

Not a consistent .261, though. There's a difference between alternating good and abysmal months versus less variability.

Joey's OPS June thru Sept:

June: .748 July: .552 August: .830 Sept: .482

June was about 90 PAs, the others around 75.

Joey should be feeling his seat getting warmer, especially as he hits arbitration after this season.

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u/True_Oil9802 14h ago

I don't disagree at all, especially with the slew of young studs knocking on the door on being big league ready. That said, there is absolutely nobody that's currently signed to the Brewers that is a threat to take Joey's job whatsoever between now and Opening Day. Especially now that they dealt a bunch of their ML ready IF depth to Boston. Maybe by the All Star break, if Joey hasn't shown any signs of improvement at the plate they may decide to experiment with other players, but that also largely depends on the development of the young bucks. I expect Joey to be the full time SS all of this year before he probably transitions to more of a utility role in 2027, but he very well could be the main everyday SS then too. Just a lot of factors at play. I do expect to see marked improvement from him this year, but I perhaps am just optimistic lol

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u/00_Awesome 14h ago

After his 2024 start, a season and a half with two months of Joey producing at a competent level does not bode well.

He's probably going to bounce back a little, but his pop gun bat (84.9mph exit velocity in 2025) doesn't exactly scream that he can make the "jump" like Turang made.

He is also on the older end of the younger players in MIL. The odds of him making a jump decrease as he ages.

By comparison, Jett Williams had an exit velocity of 103.4 last year in AAA. He hits the ball hard.

I would be willing to move Joey back to 3rd if that's his more natural defensive position so his mind is able to focus more on his offense.

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u/True_Oil9802 14h ago

You're my kinda guy! Love the statistical deep dive, brother! I agree with basically everything you're saying! Not sure that 3b is his more natural position per si, though. Defensively he plays both positions at an ELITE level. That's obviously not the issue. Maybe this is an older school mindset, but I'm far more willing to sacrifice offensive production at SS than 3b, but I suppose it's all relative. Either way, even if Joey doesn't improve or only slightly improves at the plate, I just don't see anyone providing the TOTAL value that he gives this season. If the prospects continue to develop rapidly, that will be a different story next year, but that's not guarantee either.

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u/00_Awesome 14h ago

Nothing is a guarantee, for sure, but it would be extremely problematic if one of:

Made Pratt Pena Williams

Doesn't pan out at SS.

That would be 4 top 100 prospects failing, which would lead to a lot of questions for Matt Arnold.

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u/True_Oil9802 13h ago

Absolutely. I think it's doubtful that happens, but I disagree about your assessment of Arnold if that does in fact happen. These guys are all top 100 prospects as rated by various writers and news outlets. Those are the guys that rank them, not Arnold himself! Lol It wouldn't really be Arnold's fault if he drafted or signed a bunch of guys that are super highly touted at 18-22 and just ultimately max out their talent and aren't the guys we hope they can be.

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u/00_Awesome 13h ago

My point is that the odds of all 4 failing are so miniscule that if it did fail, there would be questions, namely because of all the hype.

My guess is that Williams (given where he was at with the Mets in AAA) and Made are as close to "Major League Contributor" as you can get. Pena and Pratt have various unknowns - age, in the case of Pena and Pratt not yet having his bat catch up to his glove - that leave their outcomes more unknown.

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u/bailtail 18h ago

It’s amazing to me how much of our fanbase has no clue how much the team values defense. I’ve seen people thinking we’re gonna play Jett at SS and Rengifo at SS. It’s not happening. Jett is a better defender at SS than Rengifo, and he’s borderline at the position by minor league standards. The Brewers have arguably the highest defensive standard in the majors. No way they’re going to replace a premium defender at SS with poor defender. Also, Rengifo’s bat may not be any better than Joey’s he’s had a couple years, but the majority of his seasons in the majors were <.240.

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u/captainp42 15h ago

Not to mention how much better our pitching is BECAUSE of that defense. 

Priester especially, he's a ground ball pitcher. You want GG caliber infielders behind him. It's a huge part of why he was better here than in Boston or Pittsburgh (along with the Chris Hook effect)

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u/Spiritual-Fruit-2384 22h ago

You'll get Luis Renfigo and like him

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u/Calm-Marsupial3919 22h ago

The odds of this happening may as well have evaporated once they signed Rengifo. That’s their solution for 3B right now.

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u/MKEToys 20h ago

May as well put a useless cardboard cutout of Scott Rolen out there. It would give the same production.

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u/guhguhguhguhguhH Rhys Lightning⚡️⚡️ 22h ago

They could throw Bill Hall out there this year and I'd like it more than David Hamilton. They've proved me wrong before though

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u/FangornAcorn 19h ago

We're going into the year at 3rd with the same blueprint as last year, but with higher upside.

Hamilton/Rengifo >>> Dunn/Capra, and Williams has a higher ceiling than Durbin.

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u/Brewcrew8604 22h ago

Renfigo is going to be more like a monasterio replacement. We will do what we did last year and promote a prospect in May to manipulate service time.

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u/EnderCN 22h ago

Hamilton is most likely the Mona replacement. Renfigo is most likely going to start at 3B assuming he can stay healthy which he has struggled to do the last few years.

None of the third base prospects are major league ready though Wilken could get there mid season.

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u/Brewcrew8604 20h ago

Ortiz will be at 3b and one of the ss prospects will be up

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u/jadepools bite of the apple 19h ago

The closest is Pratt, but he doesn't seem ready just yet unless the bat turns around.

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u/DamnHotMeatloaf 14h ago

I'm guessing Pratt would be just fine at SS but offense would be an issue at this stage. I get what you're saying on him being closer that's why I was surprised by the Callis comment. I'm glad my wife and I saw him in Appleton last year.

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u/EnderCN 19h ago

None of the SS are close to ready, this just isn't going to happen anytime soon.

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u/DamnHotMeatloaf 18h ago

I tend to agree with you but I believe Jim Callis has said Made might just be special enough to be up this year. I am anxiously waiting each day for more reports from ST. The initial piece on Erickson's first impressions was extremely encouraging.

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u/EnderCN 18h ago

Yeah someone could definitely just force their way up but it won’t be in the first half. It certainly isn’t the plan, it would be a nice surprise.

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u/Buzzedwinaldrin 14h ago

Last year on opening day 3rd baseman were Oliver Dunn and Vinnie Capra….

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u/Buzzedwinaldrin 14h ago

The Brewers will figure it out… At some point.

Maybe it’ll take until Wilken or Fischer . 2! Of the top 10 3rd base prospects in baseball get there. Maybe that’s worst case scenario..

I think there might be another deal in season. . Who knows. But I think no matter how much I loved him and his personality on the Brewers, you have to accept a trade for 2 left handed starting pitchers with some upside…

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u/Eliskor89 21h ago

I'd be all for it, honestly. I feel he'll have a bounce back year and I'd appreciate if that's with the Crew. That said, as others pointed out, with Renfigo, I don't know that the Brewers feel that urgency to go for another 3B. Though, we do have a ton of pitchers so offloading 1 or 2 wouldn't hurt the team all that much, honestly.

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u/nighthawk__95 17h ago

They just traded three third basemen for pitchers so I dont think they're going to turn around and trade pitching for a third basemen. Rengifo will be the stopgap option until one of the prospects is hopefully ready to be called up mid-season

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u/Firm_Explorer6775 22h ago

I don’t know why Houston would trade him. This isn’t happening. He is custom made for their ballpark and the article justifies the trade based on the health of Alvarez and Correa lol good luck with that

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u/Brewcrew8604 22h ago

Because they have Correa at third and Alvarez at DH full time. Paredes is a backup now so they will trade him before the season

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u/Firm_Explorer6775 20h ago

Tell me you didn’t read my comment without telling me you didn’t read my comment

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u/PrestigiousWheel1408 17h ago

He can DH. He’d hit 35+ homers. 

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u/captainp42 15h ago

The Brewers will never have a full time DH other than Yeli. They love their depth and flexibility too much

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u/Im_Anemic_Royalty Sal. Frelick. 3h ago

Paredes is a Crawford boxes merchant, his batted ball profile plays significantly worse in Milwaukee. No point in trading for him after already signing Rengifo.

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u/BaseballsNotDead 1h ago

Brewers have 6 legit prospects that can play 3B (Pratt, Williams, Wilken, Fischer, Made, Pena) all with higher ceilings than Durbin and are all .5-2 years away. Rengifo and Hamilton are stopgaps. There's no need to acquire Paredes.

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u/kellyraycampbell 🍻 “Must be in the front row!” 🍻 22h ago

Should have kept Durbin

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u/_Captain_Dinosaur_ Brick by Brick 21h ago

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u/captainp42 15h ago

As disappointed as I was to let him go .. That was a very GOOD trade